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Podcast: Schwab’s Kathy Jones, on banking turmoil

The chief fixed income strategist at Charles Schwab weighs in on the Silicon Valley Bank fallout, problems at Credit Suisse, and social media’s role in bank runs.

The Finimize Podcast: Ep 09 With Guest Kathy Jones

On the ninth episode of "The Finimize Podcast", Eddie Donmez sits down with Kathy Jones, chief fixed income strategist at Charles Schwab.

They discuss the Silicon Valley Bank fallout, problems at Credit Suisse, and social media’s role in bank runs.

**Listen in the Finimize App, on** [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/1UPas3OtXxJ0uEASRndMTd), or [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-finimize-podcast/id1674219819).



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  canonicalLink
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}

fragment authorization_content on Content {
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}

fragment authorization_contentPiece on ContentPieceInterface {
  __isContentPieceInterface: __typename
  isPremium
  contentPieceType {
    isAvailableForFreemium
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}


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